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 | bmeyer
Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 175 Central Wisconsin 
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2004-07-07 90312
I'm looking at the Deere 2210 and NH TC24DA. The NH seems to be running about $2000 more than the JD for similar equipment (FEL, MMM, SB). Is it a fair comparision between these two tractors or should I be comparing the NH to the 4100 series?
The specs match pretty well but there must be some reason for the price difference. Any thoughts?
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 | beagle
Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1333 Michigan 
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2004-07-08 90328
You should be comparing the 4115 to the TC24. The 2210 is a sub-compact tractor. You should visit the dealers and compare the machines. The sub-compacts are nice, and are the right choice for certain needs, but have some limitations you won't have with the TC24 or the 4115. You need to match the machine to what your needs are. The sub-compact could be the right choice for you. N H has a line of subs also, you may want to compare to the N H sub-compacts if that is the size tractor that fits you best. ....
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| bmeyer
Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 175 Central Wisconsin
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2004-07-08 90329
Thanks. I was at the NH dealer yesterday and that's what raised the question. I felt the NH was "beefier" than the 2210. However, the 2210 may be all I need and anything more is overkill.
Why do you say to look at the 4115 and not the 4110 or other model? Is it a feature match issue?
Thanks for the reply. ....
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 | DRankin
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 5116 Northern Nevada 
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2004-07-08 90337
I try to match up competing tractors by base weight, similar wheel size and then horsepower. The 2210 and the TC24 come close on weight and power but not on wheel size.
Small wheels are not bad.... they are just a better setup for mowing and sidehill stability. Larger wheels do better in rougher conditions and are certainly better suited to pulling a small plow and the like.
Smaller wheels also tend to limit the range of motion on the three point lift... so we end up calling it a "limited hitch".
Also, generally speaking, the sub-compacts have fewer features (such as position control on the three point) and they are aimed at a entry level market. ....
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| beagle
Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1333 Michigan
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2004-07-08 90349
The horsepower of the 4115 and the TC24 are closer. That's the reason I mentioned the 4115. ....
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 | mcgavic1
Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17 Indiana
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2004-07-08 90353
New Holland and in the red version, Case have a machine which is a direct comparison to the 2210 and priced very similar. I did like the looks, you can find it on the New Holland site. There were some features I liked better on the New Holland over the Deere, but the one thing that really stood out IMO was the thickness of metal on the frame on the NH vs. the Deere, for the Deere has much thicker. Not sure the added thickness is really needed, but it seems the frame is more ridgid on the Deere. ....
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| denwood
Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 542 Quarryville PA 
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2004-07-18 91220
I have been comparing all compacts and will probably go with john deere. I like the new holland very much but its hydro is just unexceptable to me. I only use hydros and have driven many brands. To me it is one of the important features. If you are driving along and a panic situation arises (you see a large rock, edge of bank, child runs out), you need to stop very quickly. I recently tested a NH. When driving along pop your foot off the hydro. NH coasts to a stop very gently. JD and Kubota stop as all hydros I have experienced do. You feel it. It doesn't throw you over the steering wheel, but its quick and powerful. The salesman said customers like to slow down gently. Fine- gently let up on the hydro. Also why have individual brakes on the same side as the hydro- VERY DUMB. The only way to really use them is when cruise control is on. The loader BREAK OUT is the other key factor. Rated lift is irrelevant, you can always add more weight to the back. Breakout is when the loader stops moving up and we all lift as much as possible, more than rated. ....
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